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Julian

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Will the POST.NEWS age well?
« on: November 22, 2022, 09:18:00 PM »

Will this "project" ever really start? Or will it vanish - after having collected names, addresses, and self-descriptions?

I say: THIS STINKS!





https://post.news/

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Julian

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How to cheat writers - Will the POST.NEWS age well? I have doubts...
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2022, 10:32:14 PM »

How to cheat writers - Will the POST.NEWS age well? I have doubts...


Searching for the impress I found some remarkable CONTENT in the "terms and conditions" web-page: It is about money.

The web construct POST.NEWS is an automaton to get contents by writers, and cash in money for that. It is absolutely clear that the business gets some fees and percentage from the writers.

It is the so very old story, now cooked up again: How to get people to work - and milk them.

So many others, including Holtzbrinck, or Burda tried it. Here is an article about Holtzbrinck got their nose badly punched:

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Holtzbrinck verkauft Ex-VZ-Netzwerke
Magdalena Räth
19 Sep 2012

Vert Capital übernimmt die Poolworks Ltd. - UPDATE: Hinter Käufer steckt Bebo-Chef Adam Levin

Seit geraumer Zeit gehen die Nutzerzahlen bei den Ex-VZ-Netzwerken StudiVZ, SchülerVZ und MeinVZ rapide in den Keller, erst im Juni wurden zahlreiche Mitarbeiterentlassungen laut. Verschiedene Online-Portale ...
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more:
https://www.businessinsider.de/gruenderszene/news/holtzbrinck-vz-netzwerke-poolworks-vert-capital/


Here is the important part of "terms and conditions":


https://post.news/terms_conditions

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1. Your Post Account

You will need to register in order to open a Post account so you can start reading and creating Content (“Account”). To complete your Account registration, it is necessary that you provide login credentials (including your email). Please ensure that the email you register with to join the Services (whether directly or through login credentials of other services) is correct. You are responsible for maintaining the confidentiality of your login credentials and for all activities that occur under your Account, whether by you or by anyone else (if you chose or allowed the disclosure of your credentials). We reserve the right to temporarily suspend or permanently terminate your Post Account or Content if we determine that you or anyone on your behalf is using your Post Account in violation of these Terms. If you wish to modify your Account information, or if you wish to terminate your Account, you may do so through the Services or otherwise by contacting our support available at support@post.news.

We believe that great content creators should be rewarded for their ideas and build a relationship with their readers as they see fit. That’s why we offer unique benefits to our Post Editors, including enabling you to decide how much your readers will pay for your Content or allow readers to make voluntary monetary contributions to access your Content. Also, Content posted by Editors may reach more readers, subject to your continued compliance with our Content Rules. Read more about how to become an Editor here.

2. Content

You may create, share and publish text, audio, videos, links or other materials (“Content”) with other Users of the Services through your Account, all in accordance with our Content Rules. Post reserves the right to decide, at its sole discretion, if any Content violates the Content Rules. Any said violation may cause removal of the violating Content, revocation of your eligibility to maintain an Editor Account, suspension or termination of your Account. Post may also notify the applicable law enforcement authorities of any unlawful acts.

While Post may implement certain measures to monitor the Content published through the Services, it cannot take responsibility for such Content. We do not guarantee the availability of any specific Content, nor are we responsible for, and explicitly disclaim, the availability, substance, suitability, legality, accuracy, sufficiency, truthfulness, usefulness, quality or any other aspect pertaining to the Content, your access, enjoyment and use thereof. In certain cases, Content made available on the Service may become unavailable due to restrictions by other Users or other legal or policy reasons. Post will have no liability to you for any such unavailability. You acknowledge and agree that Post shall not be responsible or liable, directly or indirectly, for any damage or loss whatsoever caused, or alleged to be caused, by or in connection with use of, access to or reliance on any Content made available in connection with the Services.

3. Pay-as-you-Read

In order to read the full text of some of the Content, you may be required to pay an amount specified within the Services. You may also be presented with an option to make a voluntary payment to read Content posted by an Editor. The price-per-read for the Content may be determined by the Editor, by User or by the Post. You may only pay for the Content using Post Points held in your Account (“Points Balance”).

To purchase access for additional Content, you will need to have a positive balance in your Points Balance, to be used for your pay-as-you-read choices.

Post may also elect to offer a subscription option where you can pay a flat fee on a regular basis, such as every month, to purchase unlimited access to certain Content. When you enroll in a Post subscription plan and provide us with your payment method information, you authorize Post to charge your payment method automatically. To cancel your subscription, you may do so through the Services or otherwise by contacting our support available at support@post.news.
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Part 3 of the cheat POST.NEWS
« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2022, 10:43:22 PM »

Part 1 of the cheat POST.NEWS: to collect personal data

Part 2 of the cheat POST.NEWS: to milk writers and surfers

Part 3 of the cheat POST.NEWS: to bait investors

Searching for the wire-pullers of POST.NEWS I looked at the WHOIS.

POST.NEWS is registered with GoDaddy, one of the worst registrars ever.

Read the WHOIS closely and you will see the trap:

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Premium-Domain
Falls du Hilfe beim Kauf benötigst, ruf 089 21 094 807 an.

post.news ist verfügbar.
23.239,00 € + 46,70 €/Jahr

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No useful contents, but already a price-tag on it: 23239 Euros. Who would start a new "social" web construct and at the same time offers to sell it? People who bait investors. In this case it looks like it is GoDaddy themselves, who own the domain name. They are registrars, so they can invent and register as many domains as they want. The only have to pay the ICANN and some few other fees. And then cash in BIG.

So, for me the case looks clear: POST.NEWS is a fake.

Be warned.

https://de.godaddy.com/whois/results.aspx?checkAvail=1&domain=post.news

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WhoIs-Datenbank durchsuchen

Premium-Domain
Falls du Hilfe beim Kauf benötigst, ruf 089 21 094 807 an.

post.news ist verfügbar.
23.239,00 € + 46,70 €/Jahr


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Domain Name: post.news
Registry Domain ID: ff99fe4c181e4595a67c6bf71b969c47-DONUTS
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.godaddy.com
Registrar URL: https://www.godaddy.com
Updated Date: 2022-05-12T19:40:51Z
Creation Date: 2022-05-12T19:38:11Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2023-05-12T19:38:11Z
Registrar: GoDaddy.com, LLC
Registrar IANA ID: 146
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse@godaddy.com
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.4806242505
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
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Domain Status: clientRenewProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientRenewProhibited
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Registry Registrant ID: CR554457057
Registrant Name: Registration Private
Registrant Organization: Domains By Proxy, LLC
Registrant Street: DomainsByProxy.com
Registrant Street: 2155 E Warner Rd
Registrant City: Tempe
Registrant State/Province: Arizona
Registrant Postal Code: 85284
Registrant Country: US
Registrant Phone: +1.4806242599
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax: +1.4806242598
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Registrant Email: Select Contact Domain Holder link at https://www.godaddy.com/whois/results.aspx?domain=post.news
Registry Admin ID: CR554457067
Admin Name: Registration Private
Admin Organization: Domains By Proxy, LLC
Admin Street: DomainsByProxy.com
Admin Street: 2155 E Warner Rd
Admin City: Tempe
Admin State/Province: Arizona
Admin Postal Code: 85284
Admin Country: US
Admin Phone: +1.4806242599
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax: +1.4806242598
Admin Fax Ext:
Admin Email: Select Contact Domain Holder link at https://www.godaddy.com/whois/results.aspx?domain=post.news
Registry Tech ID: CR554457061
Tech Name: Registration Private
Tech Organization: Domains By Proxy, LLC
Tech Street: DomainsByProxy.com
Tech Street: 2155 E Warner Rd
Tech City: Tempe
Tech State/Province: Arizona
Tech Postal Code: 85284
Tech Country: US
Tech Phone: +1.4806242599
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax: +1.4806242598
Tech Fax Ext:
Tech Email: Select Contact Domain Holder link at https://www.godaddy.com/whois/results.aspx?domain=post.news
Name Server: ANNA.NS.CLOUDFLARE.COM
Name Server: JEFF.NS.CLOUDFLARE.COM
DNSSEC: unsigned

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