"Prehistorica (Christian M.) @Prehistorica_CM" writes:
"Let me say this carefully. IQ is a pseudoscientific myth".
Let me say it in very simple words:
"Prehistorica (Christian M.) @Prehistorica_CM" is an idiot. To say the least. To deny the existence of intelligence is about one of the most stupid things ever one can do.
https://twitter.com/Prehistorica_CM/status/1557819532722552835[*quote*]
Prehistorica (Christian M.) @Prehistorica_CM
By now a lot of you are aware, but for anyone in the dark, paleoartist Emily Willoughby is involved in “research” that is directly tied to eugenics, racism, and classism.
She also believes, or is at least indifferent to, the myth that intelligence has a racial component.10:01 PM · Aug 11, 2022
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Prehistorica (Christian M.) @Prehistorica_CMAug 11
Replying to @Prehistorica_CM
Let me say this carefully. IQ is a pseudoscientific myth, and the “research” she is involved in directly contributes to inequality and actively harms disadvantaged people.
She also believes that things such as aggression, political predisposition, and “misconduct” are heritable.[/b]
JIGGLYGOTH @CyborgPurin
Aug 11
Replying to @Prehistorica_CM
Thanks for informing those who are interested in paleonthology about this issue. It shouldn't be overlooked or gossiped about.
There should be no place in the scientific sphere for discourse that entertains racist narratives.
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Mygglygg
@Mygglygg
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Aug 11
Replying to @Prehistorica_CM
what the hell???
Newt999
@Newt991
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Aug 11
Replying to @Prehistorica_CM
>When the random paleoartist whose art you dislike is finally outed for a legitimate reason to dislike them
Cambroraster
@cambroraster
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Aug 12
Replying to
@Newt991
and @Prehistorica_CM
rare newt W
Aeon 🏳️🌈
@starryxchaos
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Aug 11
Replying to @Prehistorica_CM and
@DinoDJ14
This is so damn disappointing
Matúš Hrivnák
@HrivnakMatus
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Aug 12
Replying to
@starryxchaos
@Prehistorica_CM and
@DinoDJ14
But note that he did not provide anything that would suggest she entertains any racist narratives. Almost any trait is in at least small part heritable, but that's not eugenics and is no real basis for eugenics.
Please consider a possibility that this is just cyberbulying.
incognitoAngel
@secritiveHalo6
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Aug 11
Replying to @Prehistorica_CM
Sounds like my kind of woman.
frost the cryo
@frostbitecryo
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Aug 11
Replying to
@secritiveHalo6
and @Prehistorica_CM
What
0:02 / 0:06
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Adrian Gayle
@assasdrian
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Aug 11
Replying to @Prehistorica_CM
I don't necessarily agree with you or think she's racist or anything but those glasses ain't helping
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Kjmudkipz Of the mudkip dynasty
@KjmudkipzD
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Aug 11
Replying to @Prehistorica_CM
Guys I’m dumb can you explain this to me better
🦈🪳 ᛋᚻᚩᚾ🏳️⚧️🦞🪲
@SharkyShon2
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Aug 11
Replying to
@KjmudkipzD
A well known paleoartist is helping out with a research project that's based in very very racist and classist ideas (inheritable intelligence).
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a magpie that torrents
@dino_sorry
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Aug 11
Replying to @Prehistorica_CM
Her data is so bad I can't believe she said that this is a correlation
Smoky McGee
@smoky_mcgee
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Aug 11
Replying to
@dino_sorry
and @Prehistorica_CM
0.42, how awful! I hope you’re joking because the left plot clearly shows biology is a better predictor than the enviro score
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swordznsorcery
@swordznsorcery
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Aug 11
Replying to @Prehistorica_CM
Damn. Thank you for the heads up.
🪓🐄
@zhombah
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Aug 11
Replying to @Prehistorica_CM
she even looks like richard dawkins, what are the odds
Eva 🦤🌈 a lesbian of no renown/maidenless
@EvaRedux
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Aug 11
Replying to @Prehistorica_CM
I'm not very smart but frankly I'm surprised that IQ is considered worth researching anymore
The Aging ‘Horn
@Crey1959
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Aug 12
Replying to
@EvaRedux
and @Prehistorica_CM
Well, your tweet makes clear that you are, at least, honest.
SwoopToBattle74527
@SBattle74527
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Aug 11
Replying to @Prehistorica_CM
AFAIK IQ scores are well established scientifically, and it is uncertain but likely it can have a genetic aspect
Do you have a source for your claims?
black eagle dyke force
@GaelicReptile
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Aug 11
Replying to
@SBattle74527
and @Prehistorica_CM
here's one reason: we cannot accurately compare IQ between generations because global IQs keep on increasing and we don't know why.
en.m.wikipedia.org
Flynn effect - Wikipedia
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Rhaena, Evil Women Stan 💜🖤💍
@RhaenaT
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Aug 11
Replying to @Prehistorica_CM
this explains why i saw her following andy ngo like a year ago
Prehistorica (Christian M.)
@Prehistorica_CM
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Aug 11
Replying to
@RhaenaT
HUH??
Ryan Moulton
@moultano
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Aug 11
Replying to @Prehistorica_CM
Is there some way that her research is different from the rest of the field of behavioral genetics that you think is more problematic? or is it the whole field you're condemning.
Prehistorica (Christian M.)
@Prehistorica_CM
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Aug 11
Replying to
@moultano
I don’t know that much about the field as whole, and it may have genuine aspects, but I do know that IQ is a harmful myth, and that the heritability of “intelligence” or “misconduct” is negligible at best
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Harmin ꘐ
@harmiona100
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Aug 11
Replying to @Prehistorica_CM
>does research about IQ
>>RACIST EUGENICIST
Lmao okay
Christopher DiPiazza
@ChrisDPiazza
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Aug 11
Replying to
@harmiona100
and @Prehistorica_CM
You need to read everything more carefully. It’s not just that.
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Prehistorica (Christian M.)
@Prehistorica_CM
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Aug 11
Replying to
@chrrybubblegum
The stuff about race is on Wikipedia, also public. She would make edits and argue on psych pages in favour of race science. Even then, the concept of IQ and intelligence/“misconduct” being heritable is already racist on its own.
Cozy Oni Boi🔞
@theGdragonboi
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Aug 11
Replying to @Prehistorica_CM
Genuinely dissapointing....
Matúš Hrivnák
@HrivnakMatus
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Aug 12
Replying to
@theGdragonboi
and @Prehistorica_CM
Prehistorica's claims are unfounded if you look closely.
UsaGoji🔞🇺🇦🇹🇼
@usa_goji
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Aug 11
Replying to @Prehistorica_CM
The question I have for all of this is what really motivated Willoughby to take such an egregious position and devote her time researching it? What drove such a talented artist to become such a vile, spiteful person? That’s what I want to know.
The Angry Dead
@TombInhabiter
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Aug 11
Replying to
@usa_goji
and @Prehistorica_CM
Because is psychology courses, it’s exceptionally rare for more contemporary ideas to be examined critically. I went through some basic Psych courses that talked about IQ pretty extensively, and how it works. Not once did they mention it’s validity or actual application.
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Fossil Maniac
@maniac_fossil
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Aug 11
Replying to @Prehistorica_CM and
@BradtheCurator
Wow. I looked up to Emily. She had some of the best feathered dinosaur artwork. It’s really sad to see.
Matúš Hrivnák
@HrivnakMatus
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Aug 12
Replying to
@maniac_fossil
@Prehistorica_CM and
@BradtheCurator
The claims are unfounded, I don't see any eugenics.
Brandon Pilcher
@BrandonPilcher
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Aug 11
Replying to @Prehistorica_CM
Like I said before, I remember her advocating that stuff on Livejournal back in the 2000s, but to see she still subscribes to it…yeesh.
Prehistorica (Christian M.)
@Prehistorica_CM
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Aug 11
Replying to
@BrandonPilcher
not just subscribes to it, she’s gone far enough to become a distributor of it lol
Jordan Collver
@JordanCollver
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Aug 11
Replying to @Prehistorica_CM
What.
Opti (CEOTAKU Ready)
@optipersona
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Aug 11
Replying to @Prehistorica_CM
From the U of M as well?? Sad to hear
Di 🦖🦜
@DiAmador4
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Aug 12
Replying to @Prehistorica_CM
This is very sad, I always loved her art. She was one of my main inspirations for getting into the paleontology/paleoart hobby. Never meet your heroes, as they say.
Prehistorica (Christian M.)
@Prehistorica_CM
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Aug 12
Replying to
@DiAmador4
Easier to meet your heroes when they’re just fossils on Canadian stem-arthropods on a shelf somewhere
Lost Ovis
@lost_ovis
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Aug 12
Replying to @Prehistorica_CM
I had a look at her stuff out of curiosity, and oh boy did curiosity kill this cat. I'm not an expert in psychology, I'm currently doing my second year of my bachelors. She calls these "phenotypes". THIS IS NOT HOW PHENOTYPES WORK.
AeonAmadeusJho
@AeonJho
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Aug 12
Replying to
@lost_ovis
and @Prehistorica_CM
These are just behavior traits... these aren't phenotypes. I'm not scientist but I think high school taught me this.
dinosaurcomics
@skinkpunch
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Aug 12
Replying to @Prehistorica_CM
I am disgusted. Absolutely terrible.
Eversbane
@eversbane
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Aug 12
Replying to @Prehistorica_CM and
@DinosaurBiology
Behavioral Genetics
🤔
Eversbane
@eversbane
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Aug 12
Replying to
@eversbane
@Prehistorica_CM and
@DinosaurBiology
I have know a few people who go into a field because they want the cachet of a degree to bolster a personal point of view related to their degree.
I have found it does not make good science
Sassy PaleoNerd
@LikesPterosaurs
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Aug 12
Replying to @Prehistorica_CM
Thank you for posting this and not refusing to say her bame like the 20 other tweets I saw
Prehistorica (Christian M.)
@Prehistorica_CM
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Aug 12
Replying to
@LikesPterosaurs
that kinda stuff is a big pet peeve of mine tbh
Trey the Explainer
@Trey_Explainer
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Aug 12
Replying to @Prehistorica_CM
Jesus, did all this come out recently or has this been a long time thing?
Prehistorica (Christian M.)
@Prehistorica_CM
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Aug 12
Replying to
@Trey_Explainer
Some people have apparently known for a while, a lot of people had general bad vibes, but as far as I know people only really caught onto the whole picture today.
🪶Archesuchus 🏳️🌈
@_Archesuches_
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Aug 12
Replying to @Prehistorica_CM
Damn, ig I don't feel as bad abt losing my Archeopteryx plushie
🦖🏳️⚧️🌊 Diana (Eoarchean Era)
@Dianazoic
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Aug 12
Replying to @Prehistorica_CM
I.......... What?
This is genuinely really shocking to me. I believe you, but... what??? I'm having a real hard time with this one tbh
Meig/Tzippi (ey/em/eir) ✡️🦕🦤🦜🏴🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️
@DinosaurBiology
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Aug 12
Replying to
@Dianazoic
and @Prehistorica_CM
She entered behavioral genetics studies. Alas, those are pretty much automatically racist.
Fennec med stora öron 🌾
@denmedblommorna
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Aug 12
Replying to @Prehistorica_CM
”Behaviour genetics” is a nice way to rephrase eugenics. Who funds stuff like this? (Don’t answer that, I don’t really want to know).
AnaxTheJunius
@Anax_TheJunius
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Aug 12
Replying to @Prehistorica_CM
It’s stuff like this that reminds me of paleontology’s ugly, racist history. I can’t help, but think that this is the modern version of phrenology.
Jade 🆖
@InfernalTigris
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Aug 12
Replying to @Prehistorica_CM
She’s on the trending tab she can’t get out of this one yall
Prehistorica (Christian M.)
@Prehistorica_CM
·
Aug 12
Replying to
@InfernalTigris
holy shit lol
Mx. Dizzy, who mourns no queens
@emexdizzy
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Aug 12
Replying to @Prehistorica_CM
For folks wondering what to make of this, there's reason to be suspicious of Willoughby's research & professional ties. She's involved with an org called the "International Society for Intelligence Research" that's regularly permissive of pseudoscience and scientific racism.
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Wilfred Reilly
@wil_da_beast630
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Aug 13
Replying to @Prehistorica_CM
You are the future of the Western academy.
"Respond to true stupidity with a subtle but profound insult."
-) Diogenes
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JV 🦑
@FreddieJFreaker
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Aug 11
Replying to @Prehistorica_CM
Remember her Furaffinity account before she took it down she drew two scalie raptors in nazi uniforms and was like “I just like the fashion”
Prehistorica (Christian M.)
@Prehistorica_CM
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Aug 11
Replying to
@FreddieJFreaker
Yelling at Apes (but like, in a gay way)
@justgivemeARK
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Aug 11
Replying to @Prehistorica_CM
I mean, i didn't follow her in the first place because she drew a fuck ton of zoophilia so, at least now i can very openly out her shit without being ganged up on.
Yelling at Apes (but like, in a gay way)
@justgivemeARK
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Aug 11
Replying to
@justgivemeARK
and @Prehistorica_CM
It was in plain sight btw, just saying
Joan Turmelle (she/her)
@KilldeerCheer
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Aug 11
Replying to @Prehistorica_CM
Thank you for speaking out. I plan on commenting on this too. I've read enough into the history of IQ "research" to know how seriously dangerous this is
Prehistorica (Christian M.)
@Prehistorica_CM
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Aug 11
Replying to
@KilldeerCheer
If I remember correctly, it was originally designed with the intention of raising up those who scored lower, but very quickly used to raise up those who scored high - AKA rich white men who had access to good education.
Stephen J. Gould’s “The Mismeasure of Man” is a good source
Milkman
@ad_milkman
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Aug 11
Replying to @Prehistorica_CM
Hot tip: read the paper for yourself before you hop on the cancel train. I know this is very exciting but bad science must be challenged with good science. Not tweets and suspicions.
Prehistorica (Christian M.)
@Prehistorica_CM
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Aug 11
Replying to
@ad_milkman
>cancel train
Guru da cachorrada
@pangermanico
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Aug 12
Replying to @Prehistorica_CM
"Booo, someone is doing research on a taboo topic in science"
Just because it has controversial social impact, doesn't mean it's false, that's the moralistic fallacy
Bradley Allf
@bradleyallf
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Aug 12
Replying to @Prehistorica_CM and
@chase_prairie
Some of these comments are incredibly cruel and this post is libelous. The entire field of evolution is “directly tied to eugenics.” That doesn’t mean we levy moral judgements on modern studies of turtle speciation. There’s a sober discussion to be had about the utility of IQ 1/2
Bradley Allf
@bradleyallf
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Aug 12
Replying to
@bradleyallf
@Prehistorica_CM and
@chase_prairie
or studies of the genetic bases for cognitive traits (if you want to read that, it’s on Emily’s profile) but there’s no reason to jump to extraordinary conclusions about a person few of you have met. Can we make the internet a kinder space today? 2/2
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Tommy Tickleman
@tickleman20
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Aug 11
Replying to @Prehistorica_CM
Please actually read the abstract of that paper before you come to a conclusion and start a witch-hunt
Pietro Nenni stan account
@hai_torto
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Aug 12
Replying to @Prehistorica_CM and
@Foervraengd
I have no idea who she is or what you’re talking about, but what you said isn’t in the screens you gave so I’m gonna say that this is a witch-hunt. I’m 90% confident.
Prehistorica (Christian M.)
@Prehistorica_CM
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Aug 12
Replying to
@hai_torto
and
@Foervraengd
sure
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Avid, Conde de Dinamarca
@MonoDJaD
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Aug 12
Replying to @Prehistorica_CM
Imagine putting all that effort in studying and end being a dinosaur drawing nazi.
Trlsander
@hunter_vallery
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Aug 12
Replying to @Prehistorica_CM
"Intelligence has a racial component"?
While the group(s) that would come to be known as the Whites were rummaging for food to feed their small village, the Asians were building cities and carving beautiful murals and statues. If anything the "inferior race" is smarter.
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🦖John Richie (he/him)🦖
@JohnRichie1992
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Aug 12
Replying to @Prehistorica_CM
Racist pseudoscience needs to die.
Political Bosniak
@PoliticalBosni1
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Aug 12
Replying to @Prehistorica_CM
Thanks for the recommend on who to follow. Your kind literally banned intelligence research after it kept showing ties to genetics and race.
Anonymous Orange Cat
@anonorange90
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Aug 12
Replying to
@PoliticalBosni1
"your kind"
GotSomeTuna
@GotSomeTuna
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Aug 12
Replying to @Prehistorica_CM
shame on her for studing and researching things as a scientist, she should be ashamed of herself.
Ruby's hooked on #PrehistoricPlanet
@Strayed_Raptor
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Aug 12
Replying to
@GotSomeTuna
and @Prehistorica_CM
You going to defend the rigorous science of flatearthers next?
AeonAmadeusJho
@AeonJho
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Aug 12
Replying to @Prehistorica_CM
What a surprise, she's white as freaking Christmas.
Alex Gaeta
@Ichiban_Alex
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Aug 12
Replying to @Prehistorica_CM
This is really disappointing. I followed her art closely on DeviantArt back in the day, never knew she was an "academic." Her "research" is a complete sham. These nazi clowns really are everywhere.
Skua
@Skua__
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Aug 12
Replying to @Prehistorica_CM
Holy fucking shit this is. Not good. People had been mentioning this but not saying who it was or what happened. This is literal Nazi shit. Got blasted back to the early 20th century just now
Trick | Commissions CLOSED
@TrickTheHyena
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Aug 12
Replying to
@Skua__
You’re right on the money about it being Nazi shit
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K-Pg chicken
@sadtheropod
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Aug 12
Replying to @FreddieJFreaker and @Prehistorica_CM
It was drawn by Willoughby's partner at the time but yep, it's real!
argos
@_the_redbaron
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Aug 12
Replying to @Prehistorica_CM
it's been pretty pitiful to watch the community that goes to insane lengths to remain true to the state of its field turn on someone for research they haven't read in fields they really knew nothing about until a few hours ago
lazy, disappointing, scum.
Obozo
@Obozo7
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Aug 12
Replying to @Prehistorica_CM
People are trying so hard to defend IQ shit, it's really sad.
Frank Peterson
@FrankPetersonIX
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Aug 12
Replying to @Prehistorica_CM
She's a very good researcher whose work is careful and valuable.
Marifasus Lupinus fan of Henry Hull's widow's peak
@marifasuslupin1
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Aug 12
Replying to @Prehistorica_CM
By now a lot of you are aware that Willoughby hands Christian his ass over in this thread.
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ThatSvenne
@SvenneThat
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Aug 12
Replying to @Prehistorica_CM
As someone who used to be like this for years, yeah she is 100% pro eugenics and is racist 100%. No doubts and honestly I am surprised she hasn't run into nazis and racists yet who are sexist af.
Benevenstanciano
@buckhugh2
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Aug 12
Replying to @Prehistorica_CM
Translation: don’t try to find answers to questions I find inappropriate. The overwhelming support of the 💩 head tweeting this tells you everything you need to know about how much to trust “scientists” because they have an agenda and it isn’t knowledge
Milt Ruthven
@MiltonRuthven
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Aug 12
Replying to @Prehistorica_CM
defending Geoffrey Miller
https://twitter.com/eawilloughby/status/1041359322691915776sharing Rushton on Donahue link w/ Emil Kirkegaard
https://twitter.com/eawilloughby/status/601985092257452032coauthor w/ racist criminologist Brian Boutwell
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Emily Willoughby
@eawilloughby
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May 23, 2015
Replying to @UnsilencedSci
@UnsilencedSci @KirkegaardEmil Can't find the Jensen one, but Rushton was on Donahue too:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Mv26z-TZey8Jack Wheeler
@AwakenedJoyce
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Aug 12
Replying to @Prehistorica_CM
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Emily Willoughby
@eawilloughby
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Aug 12
7/ There are many progressive geneticists who recognize the reality of these things, and I agree with them that understanding these issues accurately is required for social progress. Paige Harden is a good read on this topic.
https://nytimes.com/2018/07/24/opinion/dna-nature-genetics-education.htmlShow this thread
Jack Wheeler
@AwakenedJoyce
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Aug 12
Replying to @Prehistorica_CM
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Emily Willoughby
@eawilloughby
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Aug 12
4/ Here are some more mainstream, uncontroversial sources that discuss intelligence (as imperfectly measured by IQ) and its genetic basis:
https://nature.com/articles/nrg.2017.104https://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4739500/Show this thread
VoiceofRoyals
@TheRyanRoyal11
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Aug 12
Replying to @Prehistorica_CM
So areas of study used by bigots in the past must not continue? Have IQ & genetic links to intelligenge been unanimously deemed nonsense therefore require no further exploration? Not trying to be an a$$ but genuinely curious abt this and as its obviously not my field
Vito
@josepedroperei8
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Aug 13
Replying to @Prehistorica_CM
Some let me get this straight you actually think every race or group people ar ethe exact same copy? Boy this is not the sims
Placeholder
@_Plac3_hold3r
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Aug 13
Replying to @Prehistorica_CM
Do you think someone's race can predict whether theyre lactose intolerant or succeptible to sickle cell anemia?
beep boop
@nat_pop3333
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Aug 13
Replying to @Prehistorica_CM
Are you going to disprove her work? Or just smear her
Meh
@gbfergason
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Aug 13
Replying to @Prehistorica_CM
You seriously don't believe in heritabillity of traits from parents to children? I didn't know there was anyone seriously disputing this. You are basically a flat earther.
bnuyy🔞
@worstbnuuy
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Aug 13
Replying to @Prehistorica_CM
Wait until they bring gender into the mix and then all her eugenics friends tell her to go fuck off and make them a sandwich or something
Socratic Sandpiper
@SocraticSand
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Aug 13
Replying to @Prehistorica_CM
“By now a lot of you have reacted hysterically to false assumptions about this fine academic’s work…”
HRH Mr Glasses
@MrGlass61145253
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Aug 14
Replying to @Prehistorica_CM
This is a scientific fact, it's not a myth. A century of intelligence research has shown the same thing repeatedly, in every developed country on earth.
HRH Mr Glasses
@MrGlass61145253
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Aug 14
Replying to
@MrGlass61145253
I recommend you go away and read "the neuroscience of intelligence" by Richard J Haier. The PDF is free online.
Floppa paleoart
@Floppa_paleoart
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Aug 12
Replying to @Prehistorica_CM
The fact such a respected artist ended up being a piece of shit is awful.
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🇨🇱🌳This Alberto Cox Delano #Apruebo 🇨🇱🌳
@ThisAlbertoCox
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Aug 12
Replying to @Prehistorica_CM
People should know damn well by now that any study relating IQ to race is made by idiots who can't tell correlation from causation. I mean, they do, their methodology is confirmation bias.
Yung Olaf
@GreaseBeast88
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Aug 12
Replying to @Prehistorica_CM
"Based Paleo artist has common sense? Nazi Nazi Nazi!" You are all delusional and I'm following her immediately.
Jack Wheeler
@AwakenedJoyce
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Aug 12
Replying to @Prehistorica_CM
sad lynch mob idiot
nothing wrong with her research on intelligence
DW
@Demosthenes9_1
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Aug 13
Replying to @Prehistorica_CM
You are a fucking moron
Random_Nobody
@Random_Nobody_1
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Aug 17
Replying to @Prehistorica_CM
Christian, I suggest you stick to worms and not venture into fields about which you are obviously ignorant. Full details:
whyevolutionistrue.com
The ignorant and misguided demonization of a behavior geneticist
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